The FS5 – Shogun advantage

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So there I was with my brand new FS5. The size and ergonomics of the camera are fantastic, the fact that it uses inexpensive media was more than welcome, I really enjoy working with it but…

…yes, there’s a but:

In spite of the 4K logo on the side, it’s actually a way better HD camera.

“No….” you will try to argue, “it has that one UHD mode…”.
Yes, it has a UHD mode, but it’s 100 mbit/sec and limited to 4:2:0 color subsampling at 8 bits color depth. At least from my point of view, this is a restriction that jettisons the FS5 out of the UHD video camera class. As long as we stick to Rec709 or Cinegamma at 3840 x 2160, the internally recorded image is bearable, but once we switch to a “full dynamic range gamma” (S-Log), this is no longer the case.

At the moment, the only way to output a halfway decent, grade-able image is to use an external recorder. Even though the bit depth of the FS5 HDMI output is limited to 8-bit (regardless the resolution), the higher color subsampling of 4:2:2 and the lack of image compression delivers a recognizably better image that also offers more options for grading.

Image quality advantage:

The Atomos Shogun can be connected to the FS5s uncompressed HDMI port and records the signal in the significantly less compressed PRORES HQ format. 850 mbit/sec 4:2:2 vs. 100 mbit/sec 4:2:0 makes a bit of of a difference. Not that it changes the image of the camera significantly at first sight, but the material just looks more vivid and “real”. A bit of pixel-peeping shows that even unimportant things in the background are just represented with a lot more image information:

The measurement advantage:

The FS5 offers zebra and histogram to help us evaluate the image. That’s really not a lot, considering my old Canon XF305 from 2010 was already able to display additional measurement tools like waveforms, RGB parade or a vectorscope.
With the Shogun, all of those tools are available at the touch of the screen (yes, it has a touchscreen). Even if we – for whatever reason – prefer to record internally on the FS5, we still have better tools for image evaluation available.

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large on-screen RGB parade

The LUT advantage:

From the F55 down to the FS7, it’s possible to load custom LUTs (look-up tables), which are a tremendous help with cameras recording in a log format. LUTs are dropped onto the (recorded) S-Log image in our viewfinder to show us how the image could look once it’s transformed back into rec709 space. While colorists surely have a lot more options in their digital toolbox than just slapping a simple LUT on the S-Log image in post, those on-camera LUTs help us to evaluate the “milky-shallow” S-Log image we’re recording.
In comparison to its bigger brothers, the FS5 only has a feature called “gamma display assist” that adds contrast to the viewed S-Log image in order to give us a bit of “wysiwyg”-direction.
Via the Shogun, we have the ability to add (up to eight) real LUTs to the on-screen Log image. Apart from “general purpose” factory-installed Log-LUTs, any .cube LUT can be transferred by simply copying it from the SSD to the Shoguns internal memory.
That way, we can also “rate” the camera at ISOs other than the standard ISO 3200 sensitivity: For example, by applying the “XDCAM_Slog3-Film1-2over.cube” LUT that can be downloaded on the xdcam-user website, we can rate the camera at ISO 800 and get away with less image noise. And via such a LUT, we also have a much better interpretation of a possible final image than just guessing that the shallow mush we’re viewing on-camera is actually what we want.

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Shogun split-LUT view

The audio advantage:

The FS5 has 2 audio inputs via XLR for line / mic / mic +48V phantom power (PP). That’s quite a difference to the usual mini-jack input we can find on the good old 5D Mark III or similar DSLR or mirrorless variants. Well, this one’s a real camera.
The FS5 also has a built-in “quasi” stereo-microphone (I’m also coming from a solid audio engineering background so I know what a true stereo microphone setup should be). Even though it’s quasi-stereo, it would be absolutely sufficient for some “effects” (let’s call it “ambience”) pickup to underline b-roll images.
My preferred setup for documentary audio should be something like that (in the best of all cases including an audio assistant with 2-channel mixer and a long break-away cable, but also works in single operator mode):

  • One lavalier microphone or shotgun pickup of any talking person / interview partner to have a really close sound source for the mix.
  • One shotgun-microphone (on- or off-camera) for safety reasons or second lavalier mic for conversations.
  • Some type of quasi-stereo pick-up for room / ambience / “effect” sound that can be used to add “reality” to an interview or a b-roll cut.

1..2…3…4… it’s clear to see that this setup requires a minimum of four individual audio tracks. While offering four audio sources (XLR 1+2 & built in mic L+R) and also recording in a format (XAVC-L) that offers 4 audio tracks, the FS5 can only allocate two audio sources at the same time.

The Atomos Shogun features 2 additional XLR audio inputs, accepting line and mic signals and even offering +48V PP (globally, meaning for both inputs at the same time). These two tracks will be recorded alongside whatever you are picking up via the cameras own inputs. And there are also two outputs for the audio guy with the break-away cable:

Audio breakout

Shogun audio I/O

The timecode sync advantage:

The FS5 has no external LTC timecode input. But I go by the opinion that solid timecode sync is way more reliable than syncing via audio in a multi-camera setup.
The reason is simple: When syncing by audio, the sound sources will often be located at a different distance to the individual cameras and sound travels rather slow in comparison to light (340.29 m/sec at sea level). Let’s say we’re filming at 25 fps and the cameras are more than 14 meters apart, the offset between them is already more than one frame (unless the sound source is straight in the centre between the two cams).
The only chance to sync timecode between the FS5 and other cameras is to gather all of them cam-ops together and let everyone reset their free-run TC at the count of three. A common practice that will result in 1-3 frames offset in the beginning and will deviate  more during a long day of filming.

The only way to lock timecode between multiple independent systems is to distribute a master timecode (or even better – master timecode together with a master clock / genlock sync). In the old days, this was done via BNC cable, in modern times, devices like the incredibly versatile Timecode Systems miniTRX+ distribute wireless timecode and sync.

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miniTRX+ units keeping the F5 and FS5 in timecode sync

I have been using this system on a multi-cam documentary production with external sound recently and experience shows that this is one of the most reliable systems I have ever seen.

Shifting our focus back on the Shogun, I guess it’s worth mentioning that the device “talks LTC timecode” since firmware 6.5 via the genlock input (right next to the SDI I/O) at the back. If you connect any LTC SMPTE timecode signal and choose the right options in the timecode menu, the clips recorded via the Shogun will be stamped with the incoming timecode.

From my point of view, that is one of the most radical features that open new production possibilities to the little Sony FS5 (or any other camera without timecode I/O).

Power:

The Shogun accepts regular Sony NP-F type batteries and the boxed set even includes one. I prefer to power the Shogun and the camera from the same battery. With a custom cable like my Hirose > Hirose & barrel connector it’s not much of a problem to power my audio receiver and the Shogun together with the camera via Sony BP-U60T or the Hawk Woods BP-75UX. I tested the performance and after 2 hours of continuous recording, there was still 10% charge left on the BP-75UX.

Media:

The Shogun package comes with convenient cradles to house SSDs. The Atomos website hosts a document that lists a number of compatible models. My choice of SSDs are the SanDisk Ultra II 950 GB models that come for a price less than 200 € each, giving us more than 2 hours of 850 mbps PRORES HQ UHD recording (in comparison, a 128GB Sony XQD card will cost about double the price). So far, these SSDs delivered a problem-free, rock-solid performance.

media

SDI for 10-bit HD & future FS-RAW:

As mentioned in the previous blog post, the FS5 HDMI out is limited to 8-bit color depth at the moment. Luckily, the camera also features a 3G SDI output via BNC that delivers uncompressed 4:2:2 10-bit (only in HD resolution).
The Shogun features both SDI & HDMI connectivity and it already supports FS-RAW via SDI. Sony promised to enable FS-RAW via SDI on the FS5 in a future (paid?) firmware upgrade, so the Shogun can also be seen as a future-proof option for RAW recording.

Nothing’s perfect or “details to consider”:

Fan noise: The Shogun has a built-in fan for active cooling that is about 4-6 dB louder than the camera fan (measured directly on top of the FS5). While it was never an issue on my recordings, fan noise might be noticeable in very silent environments.

Reflective screenThe LCD touchscreen of the Shogun has a remarkable image quality, but in case we’re planning to use this device for exterior shots on a bright, sunny day, it’s almost impossible to use it without appropriate shades. The Porta Brace rain / dust protective cover may not have the perfect fit, but definitely offers decent protection:FS5-Shogun hood.jpg

 

Audio latency: I mentioned that the Shogun adds two additional inputs of audio to any camera. Unfortunately, it can’t be avoided that it takes more time for the camera to convert the signal to SDI / HDMI and pass it to the recorder than it takes for the Shogun A/D-converters to process the audio signals going directly into the unit.
As a result, a 2 (HD) or 3 (UHD) frame offset exists between the Shogun audio and the camera stream (video & audio).
The Atomos developers did in fact consider this unavoidable fact and provided the ability to add an incremental frame offset to the Shogun menu options. This way, the audio signals going into the Shogun can be aligned with the video delivered by the camera. So far, so good…
Unfortunately, the offset affects ALL audio signals (including the ones from the camera) and not only the ones going directly into the Shogun at the moment.


Workaround: If we want to record four channels of audio with the FS5 / Shogun combo, we should skip the audio offset function and shift the Shogun audio tracks in post. If, for any reason, we want to skip camera audio and only use the Shogun inputs, the audio offset option should be used of course. 

Video / Audio latency & timecode: The same as above also applies when using the Shogun timecode sync option. The incoming timecode will be as exact as possible, but the signal from the camera will lag behind 2 – 3 frames. Thankfully, this is a constant and linear offset that shouldn’t get smaller or bigger over time.
Workaround: Shift the camera track accordingly on the timeline. It would be really nice to have a frame delay for the timecode in order to align it with the SDI / HDMI conversion delay. I have already contacted both Timecode Systems and Atomos and they passed this feature request on to the devs. 

 

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Especially for the new (lowered) price, introduced at the beginning of February, the Atomos Shogun is an incredible accessory for the Sony FS5 and adds a ton of professional features that the camera is missing without it. Mounted on the back of the camera body with a Manfrotto 244MICRO arm, I never had the feeling that it added  up too much to the cameras sleek appearance or hinder its performance in the field.

Disclaimer: Please note that I am not affiliated with Atomos in any way and I am also aware that other recorder/monitors like the Convergent Design Odyssey 7Q+ exist. I just happen to own and use a Shogun to overcome FS5 limitations. 

Posted on February 9, 2016, in Filmtools and tagged , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 14 Comments.

  1. What baseplate do you have on their? Looks like a Zacuto, but which model?

  2. What sort of hood do you have on the LCD screen?

  3. I’ve also paired my FS5 with the Shogun and I’m eagerly awaiting the the FS-RAW update for the camera. Hopefully Atomos will eventually release the Shogun update which will allow FS-RAW to CDNG recording. Before they closed their forums last week, their moderator told me that they were shooting for a March release.

  4. Awesome review. Rigging up my FS5 with the Shogun as well. I’ve been waiting for the Inferno but looks like the shipping date has been postponed AGAIN.

    Was wondering if you could tell me the type of mount/arm you used for the monitor? Really dig your set up.

  5. Thanks, man! I really appreciate the response. Have you had a chance to test out the the raw output yet? If so, in your opinion, is the upgrade worth it? Cheers!

    • I tested the RAW output but in the meantime I sold the Shogun because I don’t need it. All of the journalist / broadcast clients want HD in small file sizes. Maybe I will order an Inferno once it hits the market so let’s see. Bigger jobs are anyways done with the F5 & cine PLs.

  6. Can I pick your brains for how you are tapping into the Sony battery? I wasn’t able to figure it out, but would love to power my Shogun off the Bp-U60 – thanks!

    • Fairly easy: Just use the right battery: either the Sony BP60U-T which has a Hirose output (you just need an appropriate connector to go from Hirose to the power input of the other device) or you go for one of the Hawk Woods batteries mentioned in my text, the have two D-Tap output at the back.
      Cheers!

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